An Evening with JAL

[Manson]

August 2013 - An Evening with JAL

[19:24] <@RabbiCellophane> Welcome everybody to an Evening with Jal: Q& A Session
03[19:24] * Zeorus is now known as Zeout
[19:25] <@RabbiCellophane> Well, Jal we've been trading coups back and forth for how many years now?
01[19:25] <@omgitsjackwtf> hmm. Since about early 2008 I'd say
01[19:26] <@omgitsjackwtf> it's been a nice long ride
01[19:26] <@omgitsjackwtf> and, imo, couping is the only thing worth doing in NS
[19:26] <@RabbiCellophane> Of all of those which were your favorites - yours and others?
01[19:26] <@omgitsjackwtf> well, for as far as my own delegacies go, my favorite was my first TNP purge, by a large margin
01[19:27] <@omgitsjackwtf> for those who don't remember, I got TNP down to 407 nations
01[19:27] <@omgitsjackwtf> the lowest population ever in a feeder in recorded history (afaik)
01[19:27] <@omgitsjackwtf> but it wasn't just a purge, mind you
[19:27] <@RabbiCellophane> A count that would make Ivan blush.
01[19:27] <@omgitsjackwtf> I also managed to get the delegate nation mod-deleted by putting George Carlin's seven dirty words in the regional flag (the NS filters prevented me from using it as a motto or in the WFE)
01[19:28] <@omgitsjackwtf> that is the story of how the first Durkadurkiranistan no longer exists, and why I use Durkadurkiranistan II these days
[19:28] <@RabbiCellophane> I believe that's what earned you your TNP Order of Merit.
01[19:28] <@omgitsjackwtf> this last coup, however, holds a special place in my heart, given that I was able to hold the region, over the objections of nearly all of NS, for a month
01[19:28] <@omgitsjackwtf> yup, a well earned reward, imo
[19:29] <@RabbiCellophane> I'll be honest this coup didn't seem like you. Never known you to hold on after the purge. Why'd you stick around?
01[19:30] <@omgitsjackwtf> even I became bored with purges after a while
01[19:30] <@omgitsjackwtf> wanted to try for longevity, mostly for shits and giggles
01[19:30] <@omgitsjackwtf> that said
01[19:30] <@omgitsjackwtf> I think I've shown you can do both. you can eject every new nation that is created or enters the region, and lose almost zero influence doing it
01[19:30] <@omgitsjackwtf> if done properly
01[19:31] <@omgitsjackwtf> indeed, one can argue it is advantageous to remove these nations while they still posess 0 influence points
[19:31] <@RabbiCellophane> After being in the hot seat for a month did you want to hold on longer or did it come to point of just saying 'fuck it'?
01[19:32] <@omgitsjackwtf> I was quite tired of it by then, and indeed, having to log on twice a day is tedious. nevermind the fact that I wasn't available for most morning updates because of my RL work, which was perhaps my primary concern
01[19:32] <@omgitsjackwtf> that said
01[19:33] <@omgitsjackwtf> I would have liked to have handed off to someone other than the legitimate government, ideally
01[19:33] <@omgitsjackwtf> but yes, imo, Karp, it is crucial that any tyrant delegate eject all 0 influence nations
01[19:34] <@omgitsjackwtf> especially 0 influence WAs
01[19:34] <@omgitsjackwtf> make it as hard as possible to put sleepers in the region. they must be endorsing the delegate at the very least...
[19:35] <@RabbiCellophane> Was it ultimately your choice to end the war and sign the treaty?
01[19:36] <@omgitsjackwtf> well, define choice. I advocated for the treaty as the least-bad option for ending the coup, but my back was rather against the wall, given the huge number of switchers in the region
01[19:36] <@omgitsjackwtf> there were about 40 UIAF, plus 30 other switchers I had evidence of
01[19:36] <@omgitsjackwtf> plus probably another 15-30 unaccounted for switchers
01[19:37] <@omgitsjackwtf> combined with the fact that I could not patrol most morning updates at all, meant that I could not survive once all those switchers pulled their endorsements off me, even if I could remove them all
01[19:37] <@omgitsjackwtf> that said, now that a week has passed, it was better to subject the Kemetic Republic (which I will call KRO henceforth) to a dishonorable victory
01[19:37] <@omgitsjackwtf> rather than a military one
[19:38] <@RabbiCellophane> In our business victory is victory.
01[19:38] <@omgitsjackwtf> plus, there were several people I did not want to gain the delegacy
[19:38] <@RabbiCellophane> Who particular comes to mind?
01[19:38] <@omgitsjackwtf> mostly because I assessed them to have high coup risk, and I did not want to be known as the coup that was couped by a second coup
01[19:38] <@omgitsjackwtf> Asta, Biyah, Dali, NK :-p
01[19:38] <@omgitsjackwtf> also, Mahaj, because I didn't want UDL to be the saviors
[19:39] <@RabbiCellophane> Oh, Jal I'd never take Osi again. Bad form old as you know.
01[19:39] <@omgitsjackwtf> so that is part of why I arranged the deal to go directly to Cormac
[19:40] <@RabbiCellophane> The name on everyone's tongue right now is Nev. How much control did she exert, especially near the end?
01[19:41] <@omgitsjackwtf> almost none at the end. she was moving to Las Vegas and beginning a career as a veterinarian during the final couple weeks
01[19:41] <@omgitsjackwtf> I think I talked to her maybe once a week, briefly, during that time
01[19:41] <@omgitsjackwtf> but, at the beginning, I viewed myself as the caretaker of the delegate nation mainly
[19:42] <@RabbiCellophane> When and how did she approach you to take over for Douria?
01[19:43] <@omgitsjackwtf> immediately after she was given the password, and I retained access to it the entire time
01[19:43] <@omgitsjackwtf> she basically came up to me on MSN one day and asked, how do I coup a feeder?
01[19:43] <@omgitsjackwtf> so I showed her the ropes...
[19:43] <@RabbiCellophane> Gee I've never heard that before.
01[19:45] <@omgitsjackwtf> well, being a feeder delegate is harder than it looks when virtually all of NS wants you gone...
01[19:45] <@omgitsjackwtf> difficult to properly manage influence, etc
01[19:46] <@omgitsjackwtf> but indeed influence management is something I accel at
01[19:46] <@omgitsjackwtf> excel*
[19:47] <@RabbiCellophane> Ah, I see a question on the opposition. That's a pretty expansive question so I'll break it down. First how would you critique the coalition that supported Cormac - particularly NPO and UDL?
01[19:48] <@omgitsjackwtf> the NPO and UDL had the right idea, imo
01[19:48] <@omgitsjackwtf> in that they seemed to favor update liberations over the slower switcher strategy
01[19:49] <@omgitsjackwtf> particularly given that I was not around for almost half the updates...
01[19:49] <@omgitsjackwtf> that said
01[19:49] <@omgitsjackwtf> the NPO's liberation attempts were generally shoddy
01[19:49] <@omgitsjackwtf> or, their practice runs, rather
01[19:50] <@omgitsjackwtf> timing was messed up etc
[19:50] <@RabbiCellophane> Rampant disorganization and poor communication?
01[19:50] <@omgitsjackwtf> a lot of that I'm sure
[19:50] <@RabbiCellophane> That's the vibe I'm getting from your answer.
01[19:51] <@omgitsjackwtf> I don't think the KRO really knew how many switchers were in teh region, which militaries they were associated with, etc
[19:53] <@RabbiCellophane> What about Osiris itself?
01[19:53] <@omgitsjackwtf> a total catastrophe
01[19:54] <@omgitsjackwtf> but they were able to gloss over all their mistakes and make it seem like they had a grand plan all along
01[19:54] <@omgitsjackwtf> so good for them :-p
[19:54] <@RabbiCellophane> I think you could say the one bright spot was the tabloids.
01[19:54] <@omgitsjackwtf> yeah the tabloids were great
[19:55] <@RabbiCellophane> How'd the KRO's response to the coup compare to other regions you've dumped?
01[19:56] <@omgitsjackwtf> hmm
01[19:57] <@omgitsjackwtf> well basically, they embarked on a strategy of using switchers to slowly nickle and dime away my influence
01[19:57] <@omgitsjackwtf> a strategy that was guaranteed over the long haul to win
01[19:57] <@omgitsjackwtf> but I was okay with it, since I knew it would take them at least a month to regain the delegacy in that manner...
01[19:58] <@omgitsjackwtf> so I think, they could have gotten the region back faster had they not artificially inflated my endorsement count (with up to 100 extra WAs) with switchers
01[19:58] <@omgitsjackwtf> but, it was a good safe strategy over the long haul for them, imo
[19:59] <@RabbiCellophane> Now what about your coalition. When did the AC enter into the equation?
01[20:00] <@omgitsjackwtf> Nev called them in and messaged me shortly thereafter saying she hoped I didn't mind
01[20:00] <@omgitsjackwtf> I think that was about two weeks into the coup
[20:00] <@RabbiCellophane> They're reputation is...well known to say the least. So why risk the chance of backlash and let them in?
[20:00] <@RabbiCellophane> Their*
01[20:01] <@omgitsjackwtf> I didn't know of their history regarding forum destruction, and from what I gathered from asking around, many others didn't know the details of it either...
01[20:01] <@omgitsjackwtf> basically, here's how AC works (now that I've been briefed)
01[20:02] <@omgitsjackwtf> they have a small handful of players, say, 3-5 people
01[20:02] <@omgitsjackwtf> who control a lot of multies
01[20:02] <@omgitsjackwtf> and then there's Lord Alphanwhatever, who goes around convincing these absolutely idiotic forum administrators into giving him admin cp access
01[20:03] <@omgitsjackwtf> their whole operation is totally overrated
01[20:03] <@omgitsjackwtf> so no I have not payed much attention to them over the course of their history
[20:04] <@RabbiCellophane> If you had been aware would you have accepted their aid?
01[20:04] <@omgitsjackwtf> particularly given that I play almost exclusively in the feeders
01[20:04] <@omgitsjackwtf> no I would not have
01[20:04] <@omgitsjackwtf> well, I would have ejected them immediately
[20:04] <@RabbiCellophane> Going back to the propaganda side. Give us the good, bad, and the ugly on both sides.
01[20:05] <@omgitsjackwtf> in that respect I think the KOR clearly had us beat
01[20:06] <@omgitsjackwtf> GV did a bad job with message control initially. that said, I doubt they care
01[20:06] <@omgitsjackwtf> ultimately, when a UCR colonizes a GCR, the global reaction will be negative
01[20:07] <@omgitsjackwtf> I think GV would have had more luck with PR had they not colonized Osiris so blatantly. perhaps as a more subtle puppet state
01[20:07] <@omgitsjackwtf> but that would have been much less fun
01[20:07] <@omgitsjackwtf> particularly given that it hadn't been done in modern history
[20:07] <@RabbiCellophane> I may be a bit biased in this regard - but what do you make of the Empire's efforts in this war?
01[20:09] <@omgitsjackwtf> well, without them, Osiris basically boils down to Cormac, Mad Jack, and Asta
01[20:09] <@omgitsjackwtf> Asta is a very competant player
01[20:09] <@omgitsjackwtf> but otherwise, it speaks for itself. lol
01[20:09] <@omgitsjackwtf> so I think without them Osiris is doomed
[20:10] <@RabbiCellophane> Well, guess that's job security.
[20:10] <@RabbiCellophane> At the height of the war how many cupcakes did you think Bel ate because he was sad?
01[20:10] <@omgitsjackwtf> probably a ton. I know he holds the record for fattest man in Northwestern Europe
01[20:10] <@omgitsjackwtf> like 800 lbs obese
01[20:11] <@omgitsjackwtf> but yeah, literally, a ton of cupcakes
01[20:11] <@omgitsjackwtf> is my answer
[20:11] <@RabbiCellophane> Might've tipped the balance in the war.
01[20:11] <@omgitsjackwtf> indeed
[20:11] <@RabbiCellophane> Were you aware that Nev had offered control of TDE to several others?
01[20:12] <@omgitsjackwtf> yes. well, originally I did not want to be the one leading the Imperium
01[20:12] <@omgitsjackwtf> because of my RL job, and a general lack of interest in NS
01[20:12] <@omgitsjackwtf> but eventually I changed my mind and had fun turning Osiris into my personal play thing for a month
01[20:13] <@omgitsjackwtf> in fact, Karpathos nominated himself for the delegacy, as I recall
[20:13] <@RabbiCellophane> Please elaborate
01[20:15] <@omgitsjackwtf> the NPO and Nevadar were engaged in negotiations for a while over Osiris. the NPO wanted the region in said negotiations
[20:15] <@RabbiCellophane> So GV was offering TDE around while you were del?
01[20:16] <@omgitsjackwtf> correct, and with my knowledge and support as well, because as I said, I was busy IRL and had little interest in NS
[20:16] <@RabbiCellophane> And what ultimately broke the negotiations?
01[20:16] <@omgitsjackwtf> my original hope was to control the delegacy for a couple weeks, then hand over after things have settled down
[20:17] <@RabbiCellophane> Do you think the war would've ended at that point?
01[20:18] <@omgitsjackwtf> no, most certainly not
01[20:18] <@omgitsjackwtf> one of the leading candidates for the delegacy at that point was jakker
01[20:18] <@omgitsjackwtf> which I doubt would have gone over well among the natives :-p
01[20:18] <@omgitsjackwtf> but yes, AGP's attempts at trolling me are as usual an epic fail :-p
[20:19] <@RabbiCellophane> Why only hold it a month? Rumor was all was not well at the homefront in GV.
01[20:20] <@omgitsjackwtf> well, we only had about a month to hold it, given all the switchers etc and my own inability to patrol all updates
01[20:21] <@omgitsjackwtf> we could have held it for another week probably but yes
[20:21] <@RabbiCellophane> And the internal struggles with Nev in NV?
[20:21] <@RabbiCellophane> GV*
01[20:22] <@omgitsjackwtf> I'm not aware of any such struggles. GV's not a democracy; no room for such struggles, imo
[20:22] <@RabbiCellophane> It's okay you don't have to answer the question.
01[20:23] <@omgitsjackwtf> what part didn't I answer? :-p
[20:23] <@RabbiCellophane> So there's no veracity to the rumors?
01[20:24] <@omgitsjackwtf> that is correct
01[20:24] <@omgitsjackwtf> that said, I am not High Council, nor am I terribly aware of GV's internal politics or operations
01[20:24] <@omgitsjackwtf> but still, the entire set up of the region pretty much ensures that such struggles won't happen
[20:25] <@RabbiCellophane> Even personality clashes?
01[20:25] <@omgitsjackwtf> they're an incredibly loyal and tight group, I think most would admit
[20:26] <@RabbiCellophane> Biggest mistake on your part? Biggest mistake of the opposition?
01[20:27] <@omgitsjackwtf> I wish I had themed the coup on the RL Egypt coup
[20:27] <@RabbiCellophane> There's always next time.
01[20:27] <@omgitsjackwtf> denouncing the KRO as the Muslim/Osiris Brotherhood
01[20:27] <@omgitsjackwtf> and Islamic Extremists, etc
[20:27] <@RabbiCellophane> But you did have the Islamic Republic for a while.
01[20:27] <@omgitsjackwtf> all donning Egyptian military avatars
[20:28] <@RabbiCellophane> What advice would you give future coupers?
01[20:29] <@omgitsjackwtf> eject as many nations not endorsing you as possible
01[20:29] <@omgitsjackwtf> also, I have the influence equations and would be happy to share with anyone willing to betray and coup their home regions...
[20:30] <@RabbiCellophane> Will you be seeking membership in the ex-Feeder Tyrant's Club?
01[20:30] <@omgitsjackwtf> also, I chuckled at the flurry of queries I just received about the influence equations :-p
01[20:30] <@omgitsjackwtf> I thought I was already granted membership back when I couped TNP
01[20:31] <@omgitsjackwtf> not sure
[20:31] <@RabbiCellophane> If you could coup with any one around now who would it be?
01[20:31] <@omgitsjackwtf> Tim
01[20:31] <@omgitsjackwtf> just like old times
01[20:32] <@omgitsjackwtf> we were going to coup TNP together
01[20:32] <@omgitsjackwtf> alas
[20:32] <@RabbiCellophane> He went to the dark side.
01[20:32] <@omgitsjackwtf> yeah, bummer
01[20:32] <@omgitsjackwtf> nothing's worse than the UDL
[20:32] <@RabbiCellophane> I dunno they lent me quite a hand.
01[20:32] <@omgitsjackwtf> LOL
01[20:32] <@omgitsjackwtf> yeah
01[20:33] <@omgitsjackwtf> Unibot has assisted my prior coups as well
[20:34] <@RabbiCellophane> Now look at the NPL.
[20:34] <@RabbiCellophane> udl*
[20:34] <@RabbiCellophane> Blah.
01[20:35] <@omgitsjackwtf> Mahaj is doing a bang up job
[20:36] <@RabbiCellophane> Like a dog playing the piano. You're not amazed the dog is playing badly but that he's playing at all.
01[20:36] <@omgitsjackwtf> LOL
[20:37] <@RabbiCellophane> How do you feel about your old protégé Cormac?
01[20:38] <@omgitsjackwtf> I think he'll do a bang up job in Osiris, running it basically like I'd run it, if I were a democrat (small d)
[20:39] <@RabbiCellophane> I thought I filtered out that word...
[20:39] <@RabbiCellophane> No matter I redact it in the transcript.
01[20:39] <@omgitsjackwtf> I note with glee that Osiris is moving in a pro-raider direction for the first time in its history
[20:40] <@RabbiCellophane> I can't really tell the difference between the two groups to be honest.
01[20:40] <@omgitsjackwtf> yeah they're similar
[20:40] <@RabbiCellophane> Ah, we have some people who can't tell time. Shall we forge on?
01[20:41] <@omgitsjackwtf> lol, sure why not
03[20:42] * Rach is now known as Rach|shower
[20:42] <@RabbiCellophane> As a professional what did you think of Sedge's forays into our seedy business back in '11?
01[20:43] <@omgitsjackwtf> he did a terrible job
01[20:43] <@omgitsjackwtf> did he even eject a single nation?
[20:43] <@RabbiCellophane> If you have to ask it's not worth remembering.
01[20:43] <@omgitsjackwtf> that is indeed true
01[20:43] <@omgitsjackwtf> I was actually vacationing in Moab, Utah when the Devonitians coup happened
01[20:43] <@omgitsjackwtf> people thought I was Dev, originally
[20:44] <@RabbiCellophane> Oh jesus why?
01[20:44] <@omgitsjackwtf> Moab is beautiful! wtf...
[20:44] <@RabbiCellophane> The vacationing not the being Dev.
01[20:44] <@omgitsjackwtf> close to Canyonlands and Arches parks
01[20:44] <@omgitsjackwtf> the summertime weather is a bit hot for my tastes however...
01[20:45] <@omgitsjackwtf> also, we swang southward to see the Grand Canyon as well
01[20:45] <@omgitsjackwtf> so yeah, my vacations are amazing, the end :-p
01[20:45] <@omgitsjackwtf> and certainly much more amazing than Dev's weak coup...
[20:46] <@RabbiCellophane> But it seemed like Sedge went schizo. You never knew who he was from one point to the next. Early on in Osi there were alot of posts suppressed, the unsuppressed, the suppressed again. Is this a trait of all GCR coups or just those two imparticular?
01[20:46] <@omgitsjackwtf> Nev suppressed several posts
01[20:46] <@omgitsjackwtf> Douria unsuppressed them because he found it amusing for some reason
01[20:46] <@omgitsjackwtf> obviously it was dumb, but oh well
[20:47] <@RabbiCellophane> Whom do you see as the future generation of coupers? We can't exactly hold down a monopoly forever. And would you see Cormac in this role one day and if so where?
01[20:47] <@omgitsjackwtf> also, that was about the password was changed and Douria lost access
01[20:48] <@omgitsjackwtf> Cormac will coup Osiris before his delegacy is complete
01[20:48] <@omgitsjackwtf> and he will become an infamous and effective couper down the road
01[20:48] <@omgitsjackwtf> it is his destiny...
[20:48] <@RabbiCellophane> Who else?
01[20:49] <@omgitsjackwtf> I could see Feux losing an election in Lazarus and couping
01[20:49] <@omgitsjackwtf> pretty much, it's risky business, voting a sitting delegate out of office
01[20:49] <@omgitsjackwtf> especially when he has more influence than his replacement...
[20:50] <@RabbiCellophane> Final questions.
[20:51] <@RabbiCellophane> Seriously how many cupcakes do you think Bel can down in an hour?
01[20:51] <@omgitsjackwtf> Probably a solid three dozen
01[20:51] <@omgitsjackwtf> depends on the size of the cupcake
[20:52] <@RabbiCellophane> Oop got a question about your trials.
01[20:52] <@omgitsjackwtf> wunderbar
[20:52] <@RabbiCellophane> Did your first trial in TP influence your understanding of regional trials?
01[20:53] <@omgitsjackwtf> I was never put on trial in the PRP
03[20:53] * mcmasterdonia (Mod Edit: IP removed) has left #ns_auditorium
01[20:53] <@omgitsjackwtf> I 'ran off to Nasi' and was then banned
01[20:53] <@omgitsjackwtf> I think I came to realize the uselessness of NS trials by watching TNP over the past 5-10 years
01[20:54] <@omgitsjackwtf> to be sure, I never expected to get off scot free in my two TNP trials
01[20:54] <@omgitsjackwtf> I was fortunate their judicial system was so inept
01[20:55] <@omgitsjackwtf> and I had two damn fine attorneys also, in Gaspo and flemingovia
[20:56] <@RabbiCellophane> Who was your favorite opponent? Who was your least favorite ally?
01[20:57] <@omgitsjackwtf> my favorite opponent was Karpathos. guy's a legend
01[20:57] <@omgitsjackwtf> my least favorite ally...
01[20:58] <@omgitsjackwtf> I didn't have many allies throughout this affair :-p
[20:58] <@RabbiCellophane> Pick one.
01[20:58] <@omgitsjackwtf> I suppose AC was technically an ally for a week or so, so I pick them
03[20:58] * Rach|shower is now known as Rach
01[20:58] <@omgitsjackwtf> a nice safe cop-out answer :-p
[20:59] <@RabbiCellophane> No.
[20:59] <@RabbiCellophane> Another one.
[20:59] <@RabbiCellophane> or
[21:00] <@RabbiCellophane> who is your least favorite NSer?
01[21:00] <@omgitsjackwtf> hmm, well
01[21:01] <@omgitsjackwtf> it's a toss up between Erastide, Kandarin, Thrawnn, and r3n
01[21:01] <@omgitsjackwtf> trolololoool.
01[21:01] <@omgitsjackwtf> okay, a more serious answer
01[21:02] <@omgitsjackwtf> aside from Gov the creepy perv stalker, I don't have anyone I dislike OOC, that said...
[21:02] <@RabbiCellophane> Gov is a perfectly acceptable answer.
01[21:03] <@omgitsjackwtf> in-game, I think most of the feederites (Todd McCloud, Hileville, etc) are super boring
01[21:03] <@omgitsjackwtf> but I don't even dislike them
01[21:03] <@omgitsjackwtf> so yeah, I'm going with Gov :-p
[21:03] <@RabbiCellophane> What about that Taylor Kazayak kid?
01[21:03] <@omgitsjackwtf> and maybe Tim, until he stops querying me :-p
[21:04] <@RabbiCellophane> I would definitely go with Tim.
01[21:04] <@omgitsjackwtf> I don't know much about Tyler
01[21:04] <@omgitsjackwtf> my impression is he's really young in real life
01[21:04] <@omgitsjackwtf> like, less than 13
01[21:04] <@omgitsjackwtf> almost as young as Mahaj
01[21:04] <@omgitsjackwtf> so I try to lay off
[21:05] <@RabbiCellophane> well i'm out of bullshit to ask.
[21:05] <@RabbiCellophane> ohhh, yes
01[21:05] <@omgitsjackwtf> I saw one last question in the peanut gallery i"ll answer
01[21:05] <@omgitsjackwtf> my favorite NSer
[21:05] <@RabbiCellophane> next region you think will be couped?
01[21:05] <@omgitsjackwtf> Osiris
01[21:05] <@omgitsjackwtf> also, my favorite NSer is Franco easily
[21:06] <@RabbiCellophane> favorite who is still around
01[21:06] <@omgitsjackwtf> his legacy has been diminished of late because of him pretending to die irl, etc, but he gave feeder tyrants everywhere a good template to use in future coups
01[21:06] <@omgitsjackwtf> favorite who's still around...
01[21:06] <@omgitsjackwtf> I like Solm
01[21:06] <@omgitsjackwtf> seems willing to live on the wild side
[21:07] <@RabbiCellophane> Oh the guy that Mahaj beat.
01[21:07] <@omgitsjackwtf> and I admire Belschaft's election rigging skills
[21:07] <@RabbiCellophane> what about cupcake eating skills?
01[21:08] <@omgitsjackwtf> yeah that too
01[21:08] <@omgitsjackwtf> also, I actually thought Unibot brought a lot to the game and I miss him
01[21:08] <@omgitsjackwtf> trolling Unibot made NS worth playing for years, to me
01[21:08] <@omgitsjackwtf> and many of his critiques of feeder neutrality were spot on, even if I disagree with his solutions
01[21:09] <@omgitsjackwtf> but, I very much doubt the feeders will ever voluntarily do anything remotely interesting for the forseeable future
[21:09] <@RabbiCellophane> well, Jal thanks for your time. And I look forward to the next coup.
01[21:09] <@omgitsjackwtf> yup. it's been grand
01[21:09] <@omgitsjackwtf> thanks for the opportunity tovarish
[21:09] <@RabbiCellophane> o/
01[21:09] <@omgitsjackwtf> o>
Session Close: Tue Aug 06 21:11:52 2013