[Lazarus] Severance of Diplomatic Relations

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Severance of Diplomatic Relations
Between the Osiris Fraternal Order and the People's Republic of Lazarus

It has come to our attention that the world at large, and particularly our enemies and the enemies of our allies who are one and the same, may be unclear in regard to the political orientation and military alignment of Osiris. We want to clarify this in unambiguous terms. The Osiris Fraternal Order is, and has been since its inception, imperialist in political orientation and raider in military alignment. Each Pharaoh of the Osiris Fraternal Order has enthusiastically advanced this imperialist orientation, and several have also had extensive military careers as raiders. On the current Hedjet, or Cabinet, are several imperialists and raiders, and the Deshret, our legislature, is comprised of many imperialists and raiders while welcoming those of other backgrounds who can accept the political orientation and military alignment our region has chosen.

This is not a mistake or an accident. Indeed, we have quite intentionally chosen to adopt an imperialist political orientation and raider military alignment. It was imperialists and raiders who stood the most strongly behind Osiris last December, when we threw off the chains of oppression imposed upon Osiris by the pseudo-defenders and opportunists who comprise the organization known as Empire. More importantly, the Osiris Fraternal Order has decided that Osiris will never again be the fragile, timid region it was during the days of the Kemetic Republic. We will project our power on the world stage, we will take any military action that is in our region's interests, we will defend and advance our region's interests wherever and whenever we deem fit. We will offer no apology and we will not equivocate. We will not back down under pressure from the faux morality of defender ideologues, who will never be satisfied by anything less than complete conformity to their views and subjugation of regional sovereignty to super-regional organizations led by an elitist oligarchy.

Regrettably, the People's Republic of Lazarus has taken a position of rabid anti-imperialism. Government officials within Lazarus have stated that it is in the PRL's interests to extend friendship to Osiris, and yet the path to friendship with Balder remains closed. Indeed, some high profile Lazarenes and the PRL overall have not ruled out the use of direct force against imperialist regions, including Balder, and have pledged to fight a propaganda war against our allies in Balder, The Land of Kings and Emperors, The New Inquisition, Albion, and presumably other friends and allies of the Osiris Fraternal Order that defenders have correctly or incorrectly identified as comprising the imperialist sphere of influence. This commitment to hostility against our closest allies, particularly our twin sister Sinker, is simply intolerable.

While we remain distinct from our allies with a unique political and social culture as well as external interests specific to our region, the Osiris Fraternal Order states unequivocally that we will not tolerate this stance of open hostility toward our allies and pretend that the aggressor is a friend to Osiris. Any attack upon our allies, whether through the use of misinformation or through actual force, is an attack upon the Osiris Fraternal Order. We cannot, nor will we, tolerate such attacks.

Indeed, we cannot support nor lend credibility to a regime which finds it in its interests to engage in open hostility with most, if not eventually all of our allies. We will meet all acts of hostility against our allies in equal measure and in collaboration with allied regions, up to and including the use of military force. Given the hostile stance of the PRL toward our allies and given that the PRL will not rule out the use of direct force against even a fellow Sinker, as we did in ratifying a non-aggression pact with The Rejected Realms, we cannot move forward with relations with the PRL while maintaining full knowledge that we may be compelled due to the PRL's refusal to respect the sovereignty of other regions to defend our allies against PRL aggression.

Effective immediately, the Osiris Fraternal Order severs all relations with the People's Republic of Lazarus. We will maintain no ties to a regime that threatens our allies or our own principles. Moreover, we offer this warning to any region considering a position of open hostility toward or outright attack upon our twin sister, Balder, or any of our allies: If you believe we, who drove Empire from Osiris when others were too timid, are the weak link in the bond of friendship that unites imperialist and raider regions, you are very wrong. We seek peace and cooperation with regions that will respect our sovereignty and the sovereignty of our allies, but if a fight is brought to us, a fight it will be, and the Osiris Fraternal Order has never and will never back down and betray our principles or our allies in the face of adversity.

Severisen Isaraider
Pharaoh of the Osiris Fraternal Order



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You fly a crest of Freedom and Justice, yet you perpetrate imperialism. Quite interesting.
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The sort of release filled with misinformation and intended to antagonize a region on false grounds that has become so typical in Gameplay. No one really thinks that Lazarus was ever going to even consider using military force against Balder, and there was no reason to think that -- this wrong assumption would not be concerning if Cormac's FA department had tried to clarify it.

Instead, the OFO FA team never once communicated the concerns they had with us, even though they'd have been quickly clarified, as they were baseless. Cormac opted to take the easy sucker punch against Lazarus's resolve, which has fortunately only become stronger through this event.

Classy and honest diplomacy from your new OFO. It's a shame that the opportunity for sabotaging relations was placed above what could have come from genuine relationship, the sort of thing we were mindful to nurture to the best of our ability during Raven's delegacy. The PRL extended an olive branch to the OFO by recognizing it when others dared not, because we are honest to our cause and thought that it was a native-supported government, even if it was imperialist: ironically, your OFO just closed relations with us by pretending to think that we would throw away our ideology because of alignment, when our very relationship's existence was created by an action that completely and utterly refutes that theory. Did you forget that so quickly, or did you just ignore that truth because it was convenient with the war against regions that choose to defend and reject imperialism/independence that is being run out of imperialist user-created regions?

This attempt to sabotage the Lazarene community and its standing in the world has failed, fortunately, but it's not something that we'll forget any time soon.
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Very well point Milo, it's good to have a Lazarene'es perspective on this.
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Statement regarding the Osiris Fraternal Order and the People's Republic of Lazarus

The Rejected Realms is disappointed to have awoken to the termination of relations between the People's Republic of Lazarus (PRL) and the Osiris Fraternal Order (OFO).

The manner in which we approach these issues can be best summised and viewed through the paradigm of our world philosophy. We respect every region's sovereign right for self-determination, and reject the use of aggression on the world stage against other regions.

We recognise and respect the OFO's unfettered discretion, as a sovereign region, to decide on its own foreign affairs agenda. To do otherwise would be extremely objectionable. It was only two days ago that we finally reestablished relations with Osiris, in recognising the OFO - a move that was welcomed in both our regions. We are looking forward to long and productive relations with the OFO, and hope that the treaty between our regions forms the basis for such.

That is also why this breakdown in relations is particularly displeasing - its rationale is at best confusing, and at worst dangerous. Vizier Cormac's statement refers to Lazarus' refusal to open relations with Balder, and a vague statement made by a candidate in the course of an electoral campaign that may or may not have implied that in certain circumstances, Lazarus would not reject the use of force against Balder. Any aggression against Balder has since been definitively denounced, with great certainty, by "Lazarene senior officials" that the learned Vizier refers to in his statement. It follows that the only matter of substance that remains is PRL's decision not to open relations with Osiris' ally, Balder - a decision that we call on the OFO to accept as within the PRL's sovereign discretion.

Vizier Cormac's statement also referred to the PRL's opposition to imperialism. Nothing in this statement should not be construed as a policy of acquiescence towards imperialism. The Rejected Realms outright rejects any foreign policy that is based on perpetuating aggression towards innocent regions and their native populations. Lazarus is our oldest ally, and we stand united with it on the world stage on many issues, including the rejection of imperialism and of a philosophy of 'might makes right'. They are true friends. Hence, we call on the OFO to disavow reliance on the PRL's legitimate stance against imperialism as the basis for this withdrawal of relations. Such a reliance is particularly distressing to us, as it is a view that we share with them.
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Milograd, as I have said to you repeatedly and in multiple locations, I am not engaging in diplomatic back-and-forth with you over this statement. This embassy is for the Osiris Fraternal Order to communicate with The Rejected Realms, not to argue with the People's Republic of Lazarus.

Minister Guy, thank you for your statement. We do not agree with it, including the dismissal of concerns regarding the hostile rhetoric directed toward our ally in Balder. Whether the PRL has since clarified matters or not -- and in fact they have not to our satisfaction -- the fact remains that Vice Chair Funkadelia was specifically asked about escalation of hostility toward Balder and would not rule out the use of military force. This also is by no means our only concern, as there has been a worrying escalation of hostility toward Balder since the time we established relations with the PRL, despite the fact that Balder has committed no wrongdoing against the PRL unless one considers a former Monarch of Balder having an opinion with which the PRL disagreed "wrongdoing."

Nonetheless, we appreciate and respect your perspective on this matter while disagreeing with it. We will not however be modifying our statement in any way, and certainly not to lend any credence to the PRL's ideologically extreme anti-imperialist crusade. We are an imperialist region and will not at any time recognize any legitimacy to painting imperialist regions with the broad brush that the PRL has employed. We will also not lend any legitimacy to the PRL's incessant campaigns against our allies.

To conclude, I will offer this clarification: Our statement was not "Vizier Cormac's statement." Our statement was drafted in Cabinet and signed by the Pharaoh of the Osiris Fraternal Order, as well as myself as Scribe of Foreign Affairs. I have delivered it to our embassies because that is my responsibility as Scribe of Foreign Affairs. This is a statement by the Osiris Fraternal Order that reflects the policy agreed upon by the Pharaoh and his Cabinet, which has also met with the approval of the vast majority of our citizenry.

Again, thank you for offering The Rejected Realms' perspective in such a respectful manner. I hope my response on behalf of the Osiris Fraternal Order has been equally respectful, and we continue to look forward to positive relations with The Rejected Realms.
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I apologize to the regulars of TRR for posting Lazarene stuff in this thread, but I can't let Cormac's libel go unacknowledged.
We are an imperialist region and will not at any time recognize any legitimacy to painting imperialist regions with the broad brush that the PRL has employed.
You mean the same "broad brush" that chose to respectfully recognize your imperialist government in a time of turmoil because we value the right to self-determination and popular choice above alignment? The "broad brush" that exercised diplomacy when the OFO's FA leaders were advocating for foreign influences pressuring our region, disowning our community, and even couping us?

Right, that sounds like an accurate assessment of our policies and character. :whistle:
This embassy is for the Osiris Fraternal Order to communicate with The Rejected Realms, not to argue with the People's Republic of Lazarus.
You cannot lie about us in front of an audience and hide behind the fact that it is a an embassy to prevent us from clarifying what the truth actually is -- unless we'd like to take the inconveneince of Lazarenes responding to comments in this thread in our own embassy, it's the best course of action to continue as I have done. Otherwise, embassies would cease to be practical as they devolved into nothing more than foreign propaganda outposts. If you wanted to contain this to the relevant parties, you'd have posted it solely in Lazarus, or perhaps have spoken to us first.
Vice Chair Funkadelia was specifically asked about escalation of hostility toward Balder and would not rule out the use of military force.
You are quite incorrect. Funkadelia has ruled it out.

I'm still not sure why you think that is valid. We've all been quite clear that it is ruled out, and our constitutional ban on using the army as an invasion force should've been more than enough to reasonably assure you that it is not the case. And if you were concerned, you could've sought us out and asked a clarifying question, yet instead you took a misinformed belief and used it as the basis of an unjust attack on our community.
This also is by no means our only concern, as there has been a worrying escalation of hostility toward Balder since the time we established relations with the PRL.
Again with your inability to be specific. What escalation? What examples can you actually cite?

And before you grab a soundbite from the Gameplay forum, I'm sure you'll find similar conversations between us and Balder -- particularly in the now-hidden Lazarene embassy over in Balder. And I'm sure you'll find that Balder has never been afraid to treat us with a hostility as well. Nothing has changed, and your concerns are being acknowledge for what they are: manufactured propaganda fodder.
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You can feel free to continue commenting, Milograd. I'm just not going to further address your comments.
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Cormac wrote:
13 Jun 2014, 06:01
You can feel free to continue commenting, Milograd. I'm just not going to further address your comments.
I will do so here and everywhere else you've tried to insult Lazarus.

I am not commenting to "defeat you" or even speak to you, I am defending my region from the misinformation you've propagated against our character.
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My apologies for misstating the capacity in which you made the statement - my intention was to refer to you as a representative of the Osiran government.

We thank both sides for their contributions, and it is our sincere hope that relations could be reestablished in due course between those two regions. TRR will be happy to help both sides resolve any issues outstanding between them.

As both the PRL and the OFO have exhausted their productive usage of this platform, we will close the discussion here. Representatives of either government are, of course, more than welcome to contact us in the future on any matter whatsoever.
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