Re: Security Concerns of The Rejected Realms' Government

[Pland Adanna]

Re: Security Concerns of The Rejected Realms' Government

Europeia regrets that The Rejected Realms (TRR) was caught off guard by lack of communication and put in a difficult position by our use of a post in discussions with The North Pacific (TNP), another ally of Europeia. This post came from a citizens-only discussion area on TRR's forum, an area that by law in TRR has restricted sharing with outsiders. By using the post in diplomatic talks with TNP, the post came to prominence on the interregional stage, which understandably caused concern within TRR for the privacy and integrity of their citizens-only discussions areas. We acknowledge that our communications decisions played a part in creating the incident, and that it was within our power to mitigate it had we acted differently.

Citizens of TRR may feel owed an explanation for our use of this information. The post gave impressions developed from experience through years of sensitive diplomatic talks between Europeia and TNP by a former leader of TNP. Europeia was alarmed at the contents of these impressions, which suggested much more hostility toward our region than we had been led to expect from a then-Senior Advisor. It also called into question two agreements we had made confidentially with TNP, and it was important to discover whether those two agreements still held. Those questions were resolved in a positive way between us.

Europeia has been engaged in talks with representatives from TRR, observed by our mutual friends in the Aegis Accords, over how to best resolve this issue. Europeia has committed to the following:

1) If we become aware of protected information shared abroad from The Rejected Realms, we will inform their leadership as soon as possible, including by providing leads that may help identify the source of the information in a way consistent with our domestic law and treaty obligations.

2) Europeia will assist in the investigation into the post at issue in the current situation in a way consistent with our domestic law and treaty obligations.

We offer these commitments as a show of respect for the legitimate security concerns of The Rejected Realms, not only in the future but also in the current situation.

Europeia is committed to engaging productively and in good faith with our friends in the The Rejected Realms. With this matter behind us, our efforts will return to strengthening the Aegis Accords and working with all our partners and allies to protect against our common threats.

Signed,
Pland Adanna, President
Forillian, Vice President
Kazaman, Advisor for Foreign Affairs
Sanjurika, Minister of Foreign Affairs

[Guy]

It is truly remarkable that Europeia did not see it fit to apologise for failing to inform TRR of a leak from our private citizens’ board, nor for further distributing confidential TRR material.

[Ambrosia]

With this matter behind us

[Altasund]

I'm so happy Europeia was able to complete their discussions with TNP about posts gained illicitly in a positive manner. So heartwarming to know.

Personally, this reads to me more like an attempt at justification rather than any real apology or acknowledgement of wrongdoing. If it's meant as an explanation rather than just an apology, then it fails to mention at all why Europeia took so long before admitting there was even a chance they were at fault. However, if this is enough to satisfy the TRR government, then I'll begrudgingly accept that. I would, though, highly encourage them not to accept this "apology" (if it can be called that), and continue attempting to prise an actual admission from Europeia that they fucked up, rather than whatever "i'm sorry you're offended" shit this is.

[BowShot118]

1) If we become aware of protected information shared abroad from The Rejected Realms, we will inform their leadership as soon as possible, including by providing leads that may help identify the source of the information in a way consistent with our domestic law and treaty obligations.

2) Europeia will assist in the investigation into the post at issue in the current situation in a way consistent with our domestic law and treaty obligations.

If these actually meant anything, then we wouldn't have:
A. Been in this situation to begin with, or
B. Still be in this situation.

Providing something of actual substance to us might go a reasonable way to placate our citizenry, but given you've tucked this away within a sub-board of a sub-board on TRR's forums without forewarning our elected government I'm not optimistic that Europeia is actually a partner worth their weight in salt.

[Vis]

Really? Is that the best you can come up with? A one sided statement which does nothing to address the fundamental issues, no alerting our representatives whatsoever to this statement beforehand and while bragging over the gains you have made from your ill begotten information. Your blatant disregard to basic diplomacy does you no credit, and very much affirms the belief of many citizens before your region was mistakenly allowed to join Aegis. But sure, "this matter is behind us".

[Manson]

Does “as soon as possible” mean as soon as it’s convenient for y’all?

[Mad Jack]

So uh... who was the leaker and when are you gonna nut up and reveal it?

[John Laurens]

Why’d you take this directly to TRR citizens and not TRR’s delegate or FA Officer?

[Catalyse]

For anyone not yet aware we have releasded a statement on the NS forums: https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopi ... #p40679330

I have also posted in in our forums: viewtopic.php?f=84&p=10048365#p10048365

[Dimetrodon Empire]

This is the weakest "apology" I have ever read. Not even the bare minimum.

And the ambassador didn't even log in again to read any of the responses here, lol.